User talk:Igorberger

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Hi Igorberger, Welcome to AboutUs!

Just came across your work on TravelInAsia.net. You are doing a wonderful job! I noticed that you removed the domain tools from the page while editing. I restored the domain tools because they provide an easy-to-locate direct link to the website. What do you think? If you need any further information/assistance, please have a look at the help page or drop me a line. Have a great day. Obed Suhail


edit update

domaintools needs to update the Travelinasia.net SnapShot

I asked for an update a few weeks ago, but they still have not done it.

The current SnapShot is not even of Travelinasia.net that page has never been on the Website.

Can Domaintools be removed, untill the information is updated? They say 24 hours to update but it is not happening! Do I have to wait 3 months for an update? Igorberger 18:05, 3 December 2007 (PST)

I happened to noticed your note above via Special:RecentChanges. I don't know who you are asking as this is your TalkPage, but have you seen the UpdateThumbnail page? If you like you can remove the thumbnail by removing "travelinasia.net" from between the two thumbnail tags. Let me know if you have any questions - you can leave me a message at User talk:KristinaWeis. Kristina ..talk.. 20:25, 3 December 2007 (PST)

Yes I went to DomainTools nad seen their FAQ ThumbNail Issue and my domain TravelinAsia.net is within the guideline period, for updating! (Actual checking with Web.Archive.org The ThumbNail in question did exist on my domain, but it was when I first started building it. Today the information does not reflect the Website domain.

I have also filed a complaint with GetSatisfaction.com TravelinAsia complaint on GetSatisfaction against DomainTools

Kristina, thank for the suggestion for removing the ThumbNail, but I want DoaminTools to fix the problem and be respocible Netizen Igorberger 15:16, 4 December 2007 (PST)

Okay, that's fine. I hope that DomainTools is able to resolve this for you. Kristina ..talk.. 17:16, 4 December 2007 (PST)

Have you tried calling DomainTools at 206-838-9035? Kristina ..talk.. 17:25, 4 December 2007 (PST)

Should there be a need to call them? On their customer support forum they explicetly advice not to inquire about ThumbNail update. GomainTools, "* A thumbnail can not be updated more then once every two weeks.

  • The update trigger is only available to domains that already have a thumbnail in the system with an updated date no older then 2005-06-05.
  • If the above is satitisfied, then a link should appear below the thumbnail image on the whois record.
  • Once queued, the thumbail should be updated in less then an hour but could take longer if there is a back log of updates.


We update thumbnails every three months, please do not ask for your thumbnail to be updated, we will get around to updating it but it takes us a while with millions of domains to index. We do not delete thumbnails from our system. ThumbNail issue FAQ on DomainTools Igorberger 21:38, 4 December 2007 (PST)

Also I am in Japan and calling them will be a bit hard and expensive, with them probably transfering me all over the palce. At the same time I am a small user of their service. Igorberger 21:41, 4 December 2007 (PST)

Kristina, I submited a suppor ticket on DomainsTools case # LNC-263808 I am also documenting this case on Travel in Asia DomainTool ThumbNail issue I do hope it is resolved promptly so I do not need to escalate this any further. Igorberger 22:04, 4 December 2007 (PST)

I clicked the "queue thumbnail for update" button myself. If that doesn't work (which I'm guessing it will not, based on your experience, we can hack this in. Just make your own screenshot, of hte approrpate size and upload it here to AboutUs and change the line in the template to 
thumbnail = [[Image:YourImageName.png]]
Need more help? Let me know! peace, TedErnst (talk) 08:05, 11 December 2007 (PST)
Darn. I forgot about that special functionality when we use the <thumbnail> code. Does this work?
Image:travelinasia-dot-net-thumb.jpg
No. Hmm. TedErnst (talk) 11:48, 11 December 2007 (PST)
I wish I knew how. TedErnst (talk) 12:16, 11 December 2007 (PST)

edit TravelConnection.info

Hi Igor, good to hear from you. I think we can still have a page on [[AboutUs for a website that is not reachable because the AboutUs Community might still want to say something about that domain. What do you think? By the way, have you seen the NoWebsite template? You can put this template on TravelConnection.info page by adding {{NoWebsite}} or, if TravelConnection.info has been moved to some other page, we can probably redirect TravelConnection.info to that page. What do you think would be a better way of doing it? Thoughts? Have a great day. Asad | *~talk~* 23:26, 7 December 2007 (PST)

I put {{NoWebsite}} temporaraly but I want it removed from WiKi permenatly because it was never a functining Website but a Website that I built some code for another site! So it was just a SandBox Can we remove the page completely? Igorberger 00:09, 8 December 2007 (PST)

Done. Just so you know, we don't delete articles. What does happen sometimes, however, is that we repopulate a page, meaning we delete and then ask the bot to recreate. I did that in this case, and of course since the site doesn't exist, the page re-creation failed. Hope this works. If the site does exist in the future, just type it in the search bar and the bot will do it's thing. TedErnst (talk) 18:07, 9 December 2007 (PST)

Ted I undestand and agree with the policy as stated in No_Bot_Policy but in my case I could not send an email from the domain in question, but if you need an official email from the last owner on the domain - the company which owned it before it was let to expire, I could provide that! Thank you, Igorberger 18:19, 9 December 2007 (PST)

The page does not currently exist, so no action is needed now. If someone does own it in the future, it will be up to them to choose NoBot or not. TedErnst (talk) 18:55, 9 December 2007 (PST)


edit Re: TravelinAsia.net Thumbnail Issue Archived

Several days ago I let our CEO know and he passed this along to DomainTools to make sure they are on the issue. I haven't "archived" the issue, it is just something that has to happen on the DomainTools end and they should be well aware of the issue at this point. I would encourage you to contact them via e-mail again and ask what progress is being made. Kristina ..talk.. 23:17, 11 December 2007 (PST)

edit hadigayri.com

I think you are raising a very valid point but if you look at the website itself, hadigayri.com, it says on the main page that the website should be viewed only by people 18 years and above, and our notice on that page also says the same thing - that you should be of legal age to view this page. I completely agree with you that we should be making allowance for artistic pages but we also want to allow our visitors to view what they want to view. What do you think. Asad | *~talk~* 22:37, 19 December 2007 (PST)

Asad, your point about, "website should be viewed only by people 18 years and above," is very valid. The Webmaster or administrator needs to modify that if the Website is to be included as a regular site. Maybe the Administrator for the discussed site should move the warning notice to user account regestration page, than it will be more appropriate to allow the site as a regular Website not as Adult Content. Many Websites have differnt areas, some are for general public some are adult specific, but these Websites are included as regular sites in Google and WikiPedia. [Plaboy] is an excelent example of that. While in the front it looks clean, as you go through links you are brought to a sign up form in order to view pornagraphy. So I do think if the Administrator moves his wanring to a sign up page, it should not be a problem to iclude the site as genaral viewer site. Igorberger 23:00, 19 December 2007 (PST)
Yes Igor, I completely agree with you. Best, :-) Asad | *~talk~* 10:13, 21 December 2007 (PST)

edit ban is done

TedErnst (talk) 12:52, 21 December 2007 (PST)

edit ban list

There is a special page for block log, but you're suggesting something different, yes? Maybe go ahead and start it, and link it on the DailyBuzz and we can see how it goes? TedErnst (talk) 12:55, 21 December 2007 (PST)

Okay I am starting a Spam List where we will add all the IP addresses that are notorious Spammers of this project! Let's try to give them, three strikes you are out, warning, unless they do a fellony ofence..:) Igorberger 17:33, 22 December 2007 (PST)

Only problem with a list is that many IP's are Dynamic. Also it's all too easy to use a Proxy if someone is determined. Seems you've taken on a never-ending project. I'm doing that also - flagging AdultContent pages - It just never ends *laughs* Di | talk 17:51, 22 December 2007 (PST)

Why do we want to end it, we just want to scare them..:) Igorberger 18:03, 22 December 2007 (PST)

edit  :-)

Would like to get a chance to talk about Organic Community Building with you at some point! Soon? Best, MarkDilley

Let me look into it, and I will get back to you. Igorberger

edit re: Merit Rank

Have you seen PageLeveling? TedErnst (talk) 21:43, 22 December 2007 (PST)

Looks like the right direction to go! The more human edotorial we can do the more authority the project will be. You know DMOZ is not too healthy now days, so a parallel project would really be good. Also many bookmarking sites tend to be mass popularity driven, instead of consensus like WiKi. So hope AU will adopt editorial rating practise, should be great for new sites and old sites a like. There are many dead link sites in DMOZ but they will not let you edit them until you recommend 3 new sites to a list of 100..:) Igorberger 00:13, 23 December 2007 (PST)

edit Hi Igor!

I have always removed information from my pages that didn't really add anything to the conversation. So when I started using Mediawiki in January 2006 (four years after first wiki) I tried to use it's features. I have archived my conversations here for the last year, but have not referenced them much, if at all. (plus they are in the history and removing often actually helps in the granularity of linking to them!) I appreciate your thoughts, but I am going to try and WikiNow for a little while and see how it feels! :-) Best, MarkDilley

Mark it is okay to do it as you like, but it would be nice to come up with a consenses so we all follow the format. I come from WikiPedia.org and we archive it all. Maybe AboutUs.org archiving mechanism is not up to par. Also you said you never referenced the archives that you have done, but other users might have, especially newbies...they may not be aware how to go to page history and look at what information, to retrive some commentary that took place on your page 2 years ago! It would be nice for all of us to archive by period and leave a link to the archive date period on our telk page, that would be very helpful for the community. Regards, Igorberger 01:57, 23 December 2007 (PST)
Personally, I've never seen the value in the archiving process. Perhaps there's a way to make an achieve page that simply links to different versions in the history? TedErnst (talk) 10:58, 23 December 2007 (PST)
That's a good idea. No need to duplicate content! Igorberger 17:11, 25 December 2007 (PST)

edit WelcomingPeople

Yes, there are some templates of sorts. I copy/paste from User:KristinaWeis/Welcome and then personalize the message at least a little from there. There is also Template:Welcome and many of our welcomers (add yourself to this category if you'd like to help out!) use their own basic welcome. If you're interested I'd encourage you to welcome any red talk links you see - the main idea to me is to engage, welcome, help them and provide a point of contact should they need it. Best, Kristina ..talk.. 12:48, 23 December 2007 (PST)

Great will give it a one over, Igorberger 16:05, 23 December 2007 (PST)

edit  :-)

TedErnst (talk) 21:21, 25 December 2007 (PST)

Nominating a new [[Category:Evil]] Igorberger 21:57, 25 December 2007 (PST)

edit Re:Porn is not BDSM

Ten thousand pages!!! huh! What should we do to them? And yes, I will drop the Uninvited guests in SpamList. Happy Holidays :-) Asad | *~talk~* 21:58, 25 December 2007 (PST)

Adult content Splash, IMHO, Thanks for volunteering, Igorberger 22:12, 25 December 2007 (PST)
But you will need many hands to do it, so try to recruit some newbies! Igorberger 22:14, 25 December 2007 (PST)

edit pid.gov.pk

I have added {{MalwareSite}} template to that page. Does that sound like a solution? Hardly? Asad | *~talk~* 23:27, 25 December 2007 (PST)

It is a start, but is there anything else we can do? I tried emailing them form admin at phsdl dot net, I also notified StopBadware.org and Google Search Quality Team They had thousands of Malware redirect pages indexed by Google, and they removed those. But the one's not indexed by Google they left as is! I already placed them on PHSDL Malware Domains Spam List IMAO, it is a goverment Website. Igorberger 23:48, 25 December 2007 (PST)

edit SoftPro.hr

Nice: [1] :-) Obed Suhail

Glad to help, just White Hat SEO Igorberger 23:49, 25 December 2007 (PST)

edit Malware Sites

What do you think about this? Asad Butt 00:28, 26 December 2007 (PST)

Asad, I checked a few sites out and besides being new window spawners I cannot say they are MalwareSite's. Sites on Portal:PHSDL are all domains that redirect to WikiPedia:Zlob Trojan domain or deceptive redirect domains that Spammed PHSDL honeypot TravelinAsia.net Forum. We should not place domains on MalwareSite just because they are bad agronomics and not user friendly, but they do not decieve a user. But they do violate Google Quality Guidelines by being desruptive to a user. I would think we need to warn AboutUs users, but it should be done with another template warning system. What do you think? Igorberger 00:50, 26 December 2007 (PST)

edit TheHeer

We don't have "speedy deletion" here, nor do I think we need to. I do agree that duplication isn't useful. What I've done is redirected all those subpages to the main page. This person also has a whole lot of other domains, which is what I was actually referring to when talking with her/him about the internal vs external linking. Have you looked at these? I haven't looked at them in detail to see where the actual domain goes. Interested in looking into it?

TedErnst (talk) 08:32, 26 December 2007 (PST)

It is all duplicate versions of the original domain TheHeer.com. The original domain is in flash, and these are all the same but in text version. Keep one for now and redirect the rest. Let's give him/her one in flash and one in text, but even that is not how it is done. Should only have one domain and depending on the user agent serve flash or text version. So, I will leave it up to you, only one TheHeer.com and the rest redirect to it.
He or she should make a language version, then they can have an article for that language. It is like .com and co.jp TLD. Google treates them differently and indexes both. But if you have .com and co.uk Google will index both if they both have somewhat different content. Also Google treats folders, subdomains, and TLDs as same! So have to be different content to index. Igorberger 08:58, 26 December 2007 (PST)
Feel free to do the redirects yourself, on both this and RareThought.net. Thanks! TedErnst (talk) 11:20, 26 December 2007 (PST)
Great! TedErnst (talk) 15:44, 26 December 2007 (PST)

edit re: Spam List Authority

Ted, we need a static Authority link to the Spam List Igorberger 23:03, 25 December 2007 (PST)

I'm not sure what you mean. Say more? TedErnst (talk) 08:38, 26 December 2007 (PST)
I'll explain more about the Spam List on Organic Community Building page. This way everyone concerned can participate. Igorberger 09:02, 26 December 2007 (PST)
I found a good place to link to the Spam List. I did it from Spam page. Will look for over appropreated places to link from to the Spam List sub project. And will explain more about it at Organic Community Building and some over relevent places. Ted, the list is more of deterent than anything else. Perception is 90% of the outcome. That it is how WikiPedia.org does it. They just collect the IP addresses, domain namins, and banned user names and put them on WikiPedia:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam. Believe me, people are skared to get on the Ten Most Wanted List..:) Igorberger 10:02, 26 December 2007 (PST)

edit redirecting to SpamList

Somehow that doesn't seem right. We should talk this over if you'd like to do anything like this on a mass scale. We have Category:ParkingLot, which doesn't seem like the same thing as spam to me. And redirecting somehow doesn't seem right either, because when the domain is no longer a parking lot, the new owner will have no idea how to get an actual article back. Maybe we should have this conversation on the category talk page? TedErnst (talk) 22:07, 26 December 2007 (PST)

No no need to talk. You are right and I was wrong, I did not know we have the {{ParkingLot}} it is so appropriate for LinkFarm This is so ironic. Are we Savant, and communicating via ESP..:) I just filed a ICANN PHSDL accredited Registrar abuse complaint Ted, thank you again for coming to my Aid, just when I needed it, Igorberger 22:55, 26 December 2007 (PST)

edit AnnaBurgman.com

Argh! Of course the site's in English. Careless me. Cheers! - FatimaRaja 23:38, 26 December 2007 (PST)

The songs are in Russian. I wonder if they are marketing to US market or Russian market. Igorberger 23:45, 26 December 2007 (PST)

edit Hello!

Hi!Igorberger!

Glad that you are also giving Xjs.com a shine too!Keep it up!

Asma

Ok!If its a kind of spamm, so I better remove from the sevices....Should I? as he is a web worker and creating such links so, I supposed that It should be mentioned in the services....Asma
Don't worry, take you time and learn how to impart WikiPedia:Authority. Need any help come ask, always glad to give a hand, Igorberger 02:13, 27 December 2007 (PST)

edit non-profit vs. for-profit

Igor,

There are tradeoffs, for sure. We'll just have to see how it plays out. Always glad to hear your thoughts.

peace, TedErnst (talk) 19:14, 27 December 2007 (PST)

edit feature me

discuss here? FeatureMePotentials#Discussion TedErnst (talk) 21:23, 27 December 2007 (PST)

edit categories

Have you seen {{CategoryTOC}}? Would that be a temporary partial fix? I ask because at least that's something normal users (non-developers) can do. The developers are in the midst of a major release and I can't see them getting to this in the near-term. What do you think? TedErnst (talk) 17:49, 29 December 2007 (PST)

It does not make sence to do CategoryTOC. How can you feet all the sites under each letter? How many sites we have indexed..:) Google and the rest of search engines have a limit of 256 kb of indexing per page, after that it is not idexed. So looks like we will have to wait, no choice! But also there are a lot of dead sites that we need to move to protected area untill they come back to life, we are leaking PR which is dangerous for the project. Passing PR to dead sites hurts the whole project, it is like the return of the living dead..:) Igorberger 18:03, 29 December 2007 (PST)
We ought to talk about this on PageRank so we can all learn together. Maybe some of the fixes are easier than others and should be done sooner. TedErnst (talk) 18:57, 29 December 2007 (PST)

edit that user

hasn't edited since the 6th of Jan - most edits have already been rolled back - we don't have a rollback bot - I can use the rollback button (don't you also have the rollback button?) TedErnst (talk) 07:33, 23 January 2008 (PST)

Don't I have to be a sysop to rollback? Igorberger 07:34, 23 January 2008 (PST)
There is a difference between undo and rollback! Igorberger 07:38, 23 January 2008 (PST)

edit re: {{LargeCategoryTOC}}

I think it looks fine. Category:Women is a bad example because it's mostly porn, it seems, but I get your point. What I do want to understand is about PageRank or Authority or whatever we should call it. Could we make a page so everyone can understand? TedErnst (talk) 07:44, 23 January 2008 (PST)

I will be going on vacation soon so trying to tone down things, but Google Tool Bar Page Rank is the green pixels that shows the authority of a WebPage from 0 to 10. Google also has an internal Authority meter which is similar as the GTPR. When a page gets higher Authority it has more Trust for Google and Google pushes the page in its search results. Consequently each page when linking to othe pages externaly or internaly passes Authority via a process called iteration.
So AboutUs main page has Authority 5 and passes it down to subsequent internal pages which pass to our clients - Websites externally. That is why the Spammers come to drop links so they can get Google Juice from us for their Spammy Websites. But we need to distributes the Authority that Google assigns to us proportionally without passin g it to porn sites, Malware sites, 404 sites, etc. The better the iteration and the less we leak authority to Spam the stronger we become and more authority we can pass to our clients. Hence, when someone will search for their domain name AboutUs article for that domain will come up high in the results. So besides atributing the trust that Google assigns us to our clients we help ourselves by promoting our articles in the SERPs. Igorberger 08:02, 23 January 2008 (PST)
I am not really good at creating original articles so I will bring bits and parts and maybe get somone to help us build the article to educate our community why are conserned about Spammers and Page Authority. Igorberger 08:05, 23 January 2008 (PST)
For example, a page like [[Category:Linkfarm]] Category:Linkfarm should use rel=nofollow on all the links on those pages because we do not want to pass Google Trust and Authority to LinkFarm pages and have them pass the Trust externally to LinkFarm Websites. Igorberger 08:10, 23 January 2008 (PST)

This is great. I'll be participating and asking questinos on the page, and editing the existing work, of course. :-) TedErnst (talk) 09:57, 23 January 2008 (PST)

I am gald it is coming together. It is going to help the project a lot. Spread the news around and get everyone involved. Will talk later going to sleep. Igorberger 10:03, 23 January 2008 (PST)
Could you give me a link to a google search showing the success? And maybe we ought to do a controlled test with screen shots before and after, for a few categories? What do you think? TedErnst (talk) 22:47, 23 January 2008 (PST)
All my sites are working. ivbsolutions.net igorthetroll.com travelinasia.net phsdl.net Also my friends' site is coming out of the Google SnadBox since I fixed their category. Just Google the domains and see! It is all working!!! Igorberger 22:53, 23 January 2008 (PST)
I am getting the SnapShot ready. I took a Website that did not have AboutUs show up on mage one of Google results and now it is in number 6 of the results. I actually saw it move up from number 10 to number six and all documented in SnapShot. Will try to get it up higher to number 3 or so. Igorberger 23:33, 23 January 2008 (PST) Sorry I just realized AboutUs was on page one fo Google results already! Igorberger 23:41, 23 January 2008 (PST)
Okay Ted, I am taking your chalange, which is going to be hard to meet because the Website I chose is an old matured site of Google PR 5 and AboutUs is in number 6 of Google search relsuts. If the site was a new one it would be much easier to do, but I will try to move AboutUs even one notch to the top. I have used {{LargeCategoryTOC}} and as well as made all categories with red link blue link - I made all of them active by activating some text in a category article and then deleting the text. Okay will be back in a few weeks to see if we can outperform AboutUs for matured sites! Oh, and have it all SnapShot! 00:43, 24 January 2008 (PST)

Awesome! TedErnst (talk) 08:28, 24 January 2008 (PST)

edit Re: PageRank

Very interesting! This is a new concept for me, so I'm going to read that again tomorrow and see how much more of it I can absorb. Best, Kristina ..talk.. ..chat.. 10:44, 24 January 2008 (PST)

edit DailyBuzz

Hi Igor, I like the highlight around the initial text and feel like it is too much around the whole page. What are your thoughts about that? Best, MarkDilley

Mark I am design blind, so I will leave it in your capable hands. Igorberger 16:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)
:-) I am pretty design blind sometimes too! I think I figured it out, I put the design outside the <noinclude> - so I think I fixed it. Best, MarkDilley

edit Re: Please check Consulting.ky

  • Hi, thanks for your message. Re the category comment, I recognized the work put into the page and prefer to give folks the latitude to learn what works for them, especially as the bulk of the work was done today. Also, there can be merit to red links, FutureLinks. best, Kasey 17:19, 25 January 2008 (PST)
    Please refer to PageRank Igorberger 17:24, 25 January 2008 (PST)
    • Igor, I think the suggestion on PageRank can be applied in two ways, and maybe we need to distinguish between them. One is that we want AboutUs to have as high a PageRank as possible as a site, so as to help all of our members. For these, our active members will want to do these actions, regardless of what pages need to be edited. The other is that members can use certain techniques to benefit their own PageRank. For these, it's best for those members to be doing those things on the pages they most care about. As an aside, we also have other considerations, such as building community and teaching people how to use wiki, and these may at times be in conflict with the ideas about PageRank. What do you think? Feel free to move these comments to PageRank if they seem relevant. TedErnst (talk) 00:23, 26 January 2008 (PST)

edit re: Need Repopulate template

Right now to repopulate a Website you have to delete it first which maybe confusing if used {{Template:Delete}} so we should have {{Template:Repopulate}} but it needs to be tied in to the sysop panel so sysops can check before doing. Igorberger 18:29, 25 January 2008 (PST)

We don't actually have a sysop panel, so I'm not sure how anyone would notice that anything needs to be repopulated. I think our theory is that if information from the bot is out of date, humans can update it, generally, without running the bot again. The idea isn't to run the bot more than once per page. Say more about why this is needed? TedErnst (talk) 00:33, 26 January 2008 (PST)
When someone gives up a domain and someone else buys it, how do you change the information for that domian? This is a problem for some business owners. Igorberger 00:44, 26 January 2008 (PST)
You click "edit" and change it. I feel like you're saying something that I'm not hearing. Help me by trying again? TedErnst (talk) 00:48, 26 January 2008 (PST)
We need the bot to do it, when have to build a whole new page. Igorberger 00:54, 26 January 2008 (PST)
I'm just not understanding why this is necessary. When we do a repopulate, we generally lose the edit history, which is not a good thing. Sometimes it's possible to later restore that history, but if we're not careful, the history can be lost. I think this might even break our license. I'm still not seeing why it's necessary. TedErnst (talk) 08:45, 26 January 2008 (PST)
I understand how you feel and I agree with you. We do not really want to lose history. If you see the history for HHNascar History You can see the bot reindexed it without losing history. So is there a way to do it? Igorberger 08:59, 26 January 2008 (PST)

As I said, sometimes it is possible to retain the history. I think I am one of the few people that knows how to do it. It's a several step process. The only reason I ever repopulate a page with a history is because you have asked for it. I really don't think it's every necessary. So, I could teach people how to do it, but I don't see that as a good use of my time, or that other person's time. The bot is just to get things started. After that, human edits are best. I'm still not understanding why this is every needed. Help me understand? TedErnst (talk) 09:11, 26 January 2008 (PST)

I am just thinking about the user when they stop the domain and want to clear up the old information. But should be easier for us to do it with one move. Igorberger 10:03, 26 January 2008 (PST)

edit sysop status

Can I get sysop status so I can help with blocking abusive users and repopulating pages? Igorberger 01:22, 26 January 2008 (PST)

To be honest, I'm uncomfortable with some of your decisions. You've asked me to block IPs that made only a couple of abusive edits. We generally choose a softer approach than I've seen you wanting to take. I think we should keep working on consensus about how to handle these situations and when we're in agreement, then I'll agree to sysop status. I'll also run this by others and they may be ready to grant the status right away, which is also okay with me. By the way, I've found all of your work very helpful for me to understand the ramifications of the approach we've taken so far. When I say seek consensus, I'm not at all saying I need you to change your mind. It could very well be that I just need to understand further why you hold the positions you do and I'll end up moving in that direction. On the other hand, I hope you'll also be working to do the same, to understand why I hold the positions I do, so we can find creative solutions that meet both of our needs. How does that sound? TedErnst (talk) 08:45, 26 January 2008 (PST)
Honestly I am not interested in sysop just looking for a way to do the job easier. Igorberger 09:01, 26 January 2008 (PST)
Yes, I hear that. And I think what I'm saying is that some of the parts of the job it seems like you want to do, I don't feel need to be done at all. So I also am looking for a way to make the job easier. TedErnst (talk) 09:09, 26 January 2008 (PST)

edit It is an honor

To do a little organization of your great work. Best, MarkDilley

Thank you for your very kind words. I am just doing my share to help a very good Wiki project. Igorberger 00:47, 28 January 2008 (PST)

edit adult content splash

Igor,

Did you click "yes" in response to that screen? If so, you won't see the screen again until the system forgets you clicked yes. It's designed to not nag you so much. If that's not it, let me know and we can figure it out.

peace, TedErnst (talk) 09:25, 28 January 2008 (PST)

Thank you, I kind of figured it our by going to FF for crossbrowser check. Igorberger 10:39, 28 January 2008 (PST)

edit Vandalism

Sorry about the edits to your personal page. This person's edits alerted me to what appears to be a bug in blocking logged in users, which I have noted on CompostUsBugs. I will keep an eye on your page, and sorry again. Best, Kristina .talk. .chat. 22:08, 29 March 2008 (PDT)

I have been Vandalized? Wow! I am so happy somebody cares! LOL Thanks for watching out Love! Igorberger 02:49, 18 May 2008 (PDT)

edit thanks for the note

Hope all is well, TedErnst (talk) 09:15, 18 May 2008 (PDT)

I am fine. Edited Wikipedia fo a while, but the place is too agenda driven. Now doing my blog and Social Media networking like Twitter and MyBlogLog aggregator. Getting ready to head to China. Looking forward to a break from Cyber space. Escape the Matrix! lol Igorberger 09:32, 18 May 2008 (PDT)

edit Building a human rights list

Hi Igor, I wanted to see if you would be interested in working on a Category:Human Rights connected wiki. I have started Category:PeaceOrganizing and Category:OrganizedLabor - as little as they are, I wonder if this would be of interest for you to discuss? Best, MarkDilley

Mark thanks for the invite. What is the scope of human rights you want to include? Would you consider Wikipedia:Emma Goldman Anarchist as a Human Rights Activist? Would you consider Loren Feldman 1938Media.com as a Human Rights Activist? What are the guideliness you want to follow in terms of notability? Do they have to be self-identifiers? Igorberger 13:30, 18 May 2008 (PDT)
Igor, I hadn't really thought it through to that depth. What I am interested is getting started on a meta level, what are all the websites that are involved in Human Rights? Start building the list, then figuring out what is next. But that is only my feeling on how to start. Also I am not sure if notable is an idea that works in AboutUs. What do you think? Best, MarkDilley
I agree we do not want to be Elitists. I never liked the "Notable". Let's just add Websites that we belive participate in Human Rights Advocacy. Igorberger 16:40, 18 May 2008 (PDT)
Human Rights Advocacy Organizations is a great start. I agree we have a hard way to add third level domain pages currently. I am interested in building a great resource for people interested in some of our ideals. :-) I wanted to see if that would be something you would be interested in working on with me, maybe we move to the category and start banging out details? Best, MarkDilley
If you talking about Amnesty International. Boo! Not something that I want to add. I am more interested in smaller people Category:Human Rights Activist Something like this guy blogthebog.blogsome.com Surfingthenations.com We need the bot to index subdomains or are you interested in doing it manually? Igorberger 17:47, 18 May 2008 (PDT)

edit My thoughts on your message

Hi Igor, I noticed your comments on Ted's talk page and here are my thoughts on it. All publicly editable wikis are naturally community based and so is AboutUs.org. AboutUs does have a great community of editors and collaborators and I am sure that's one of the coolest things about it. But having said that, we also think that AboutUs is about businesses and organizations and the front page of AboutUs has, to some extent, reflect that. If however, you think the front page heavily tilts towards business rather than the community, I have to say that I agree with you. But I also see that AboutUs is in a state of transition right now. You might remember that our front page not very long ago, said a lot of things about the community and essentially nothing about the business. The current form, therefore, should be considered a stage rather than a finality. If people like you continue giving their suggestions on what form it should take, and if enough people agree with them, I am sure the front page is bound to change. Best, Asad | *~talk~* 07:11, 19 May 2008 (PDT)

edit Front page

Hi Igor, if you have the energy, could you mock up what you think a good front page would be? Maybe use existing one and tweek. User:Igorberger/FrontPageTest or something like that? Best, MarkDilley

Mark I will see what I can do, but I am getting ready to go to China and a bit busy on all fronts. But I recommend a smal intro about AboutUs community with links to community area. Also a small section about portals. It all needs to be balanced with what AboutUs is about and must include links to the areas. Why not have everyone have a go at it AboutUsFrontPage:Igorberger 13:04, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
The trick is to include what's needed while leaving out everything else. I find the site as a whole "busy" which means I'm biased against adding more to the front page. I dunno. TedErnst (talk) 15:35, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
I agree, keeping it compact in a summary matter is the best. Igorberger 15:49, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

edit go ahead

Igor, I think we can keep tweaking the AboutUsFrontPage :-) Glad you started it, I moved the DailyBuzz from it because it was a unsecured point for a vandal of ours. Best, MarkDilley

what do you think? hope you like the idea you started! Best, MarkDilley
I like it a lot it has character! Igorberger 23:59, 3 June 2008 (PDT)
Great! Glad you pushed in that direction :-) ~~ MarkDilley

edit Not yet

I clicked through to it and it isn't clear what is happening and what I could do, etc. Can you work on making the situation more clear? Let me know what you think about that. Best, MarkDilley

Building a topic and a portal requires activism Human Rights Activism please add it to the AboutUs Front Page so others will see and contribute to the page. As far as the cituation with EmiSteve is, Steve is scard he does not know how to ask for help because he is a bit naive and has beem in the wilds for the past 20 years. They were also cheated and abused by Japanese Mass Media. They did a documentary about Emi's Cancer including her surgery but did not give them one red cent. They had to pay for operation from their own pocket, and now the Cancer came back. They do not have the money for the next operation. Our support would be greatly appreciated and it is good PR for AboutUs project. Igorberger 00:30, 17 June 2008 (PDT)